Wednesday, February 23, 2011

GERMAN UFOs TRUTH or MYTH?

 The HAUNEBU DISC 



In science fiction, conspiracy theory, and underground comic books, there are a number of stories or claims regarding Nazi UFOs (in German: Rundflugzeug, Feuerball, Diskus, Haunebu, Hauneburg-Gerate, VRIL, Kugelblitz, Andromeda-Gerate, Flugkreisel, Kugelwaffen, satirically as Reichsflugscheiben). They relate supposedly successful attempts to develop advanced aircraft or spacecraft in Nazi Germany prior to and during World War II, and further claim the post-war survival of these craft in secret underground bases in Antarctica, South America, the United States and even the Moon or Outer Space along with their Nazi creators.
These accounts appear from as early as 1950, likely inspired by historical German development of specialized engines such as Viktor Schauberger's "Repulsine" around the time of WWII. Elements of the claims have been widely incorporated into various works of fictional media including video games and documentaries, often mixed with more substantiated information.
Nazi UFO tales and myths very often conform largely to documented history on the following points:

  • Nazi Germany claimed the territory of New Swabia in Antarctica, sent an expedition there in 1938, and planned others.
  • Nazi Germany conducted research into advanced propulsion technology, including rocketry, Viktor Schauberger's engine research, flying wing craft and the Arthur Sack A.S.6 experimental circular winged aircraft.
  • Some UFO sightings during World War II, particularly those known as foo fighters, were thought by the allies to be prototype enemy aircraft designed to harass Allied aircraft through electromagnetic disruption; a technology similar to today's electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapons. 


Early Claims
The earliest non-fiction assertion of Nazi flying saucers appears to have been an article which appeared in the Italian newspaper Il Giornale d'Italia in early 1950. Written by Professor Giuseppe Belluzzo, an Italian scientist and a former Italian Minister of National Economy under the Mussolini regime, it claimed that "types of flying discs were designed and studied in Germany and Italy as early as 1942". Belluzzo also expressed the opinion that "some great power is launching discs to study them".
The same month, German engineer Rudolf Schriever gave an interview to German news magazine Der Spiegel in which he claimed that he had designed a craft powered by a circular plane of rotating turbine blades 49 ft (15 m) in diameter. He said that the project had been developed by him and his team at BMW's Prague works until April 1945, when he fled Czechoslovakia. His designs for the disk and a model were stolen from his workshop in Bremerhaven-Lehe in 1948 and he was convinced that Czech agents had built his craft for "a foreign power".
In a separate interview with Der Spiegel in October 1952 he said that the plans were stolen from a farm he was hiding in near Regen on May 14, 1945. There are other discrepancies between the two interviews that add to the confusion.
In 1953, when Avro Canada announced that it was developing the VZ-9-AV Avrocar, a circular jet aircraft with an estimated speed of 1,500 mph (2,400 km/h), German engineer Georg Klein claimed that such designs had been developed during the Third Reich. Klein identified two types of supposed German flying disks:

  • A non-rotating disk developed at Breslau by V-2 rocket engineer Richard Miethe, which was captured by the Soviets, while Miethe fled to the US via France, and ended up working for Avro.
  • A disk developed by Rudolf Schriever and Klaus Habermohl at Prague, which consisted of a ring of moving turbine blades around a fixed cockpit. Klein claimed that he had witnessed this craft's first manned flight on 14 February 1945, when it managed to climb to 12,400 m (40,700 ft) in 3 minutes and attained a speed of 2,200 km/h (1,400 mph) in level flight.
Le Matin des Magiciens, a 1960 book by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, made many spectacular claims about the Vril Society of Berlin. Several years later writers, including Jan van Helsing, Norbert-Jürgen Ratthofer, and Vladimir Terziski, have built on their work, connecting the Vril Society with UFOs. Among their claims, they imply that the society may have made contact with an alien race and dedicated itself to creating spacecraft to reach the aliens. In partnership with the Thule Society and the Nazi Party, the Vril Society developed a series of flying disc prototypes. With the Nazi defeat, the society allegedly retreated to a base in Antarctica and vanished.
Vladimir Terziski, a Bulgarian engineer who bills himself as president of the American Academy of Dissident Sciences, claims that the Germans collaborated in their advanced craft research with Axis powers Italy and Japan, and continued their space effort after the war from a base in New Swabia. He alleges that Germans may have landed on the Moon as early as 1942 and established an underground base there. Terziski relates that when Russians and Americans secretly landed on the moon in the 1950s they stayed at this still-operating base. According to Terziski, "there is atmosphere, water and vegetation on the Moon," which NASA conceals to exclude the third world from moon exploration. Terziski has been accused of fabricating his video and photographic evidence.
When German Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel started Samisdat Publishers in the 1970s, he initially catered to the UFOlogy community, which was then at its peak of public acceptance. His books claimed that flying saucers were Nazi secret weapons launched from an underground base in Antarctica, from which the Nazis hoped to conquer the world and possibly the planets. Zundel also sold (for $9999) seats on an exploration team to locate the polar entrance to the hollow earth. Some who interviewed Zundel claim that he privately admitted it was a deliberate hoax to build publicity for Samisdat, although he still defended it as late as 2002.
In 1978 Miguel Serrano, a Chilean diplomat and Nazi sympathizer, published The Golden Band, in which he claimed that Adolf Hitler was an avatar of Vishnu and was at that time communing with Hyperborean gods in an underground Antarctic base in New Swabia. Serrano predicted that Hitler would lead a fleet of UFOs from the base to establish the Fourth Reich. In popular culture, this alleged UFO fleet is referred to as the Nazi flying saucers from Antarctica.


 


Early Development

The SS E-IV (Entwicklungsstelle 4), a development unit of the SS occult “Order of the Black Sun” was tasked with researching alternative energies to make the Third Reich independent of scarce fuel oil for war production. Their work included developing alternative energies and fuels.
This group developed by 1939 a revolutionary electro-magnetic-gravitic engine which improved Hans Coler’s free energy machine into an energy Konverter coupled to a Van De Graaf band generator and Marconi vortex dynamo (a spherical tank of mercury) to create powerful rotating electromagnetic fields that affected gravity and reduced mass. It was designated the Thule Triebwerk (Thrustwork, a.ka. Tachyonator-7 drive) and was to be installed into a Thule designed disc
Since 1935 the Thule Gesellschaft (Society) had been scouting for a remote, inconspicuous, underdeveloped testing ground for such a craft. Thule found a location in Northwest Germany that was known as (or possibly designated as) Hauneburg. At the establishment of this testing ground and facilities the SS E-IV unit simply referred to the new Thule disc as a war product- the “H-Gerat” (Hauneburg Device).

For wartime security reasons the name was shortened to Haunebu in 1939 and was briefly designated RFZ-5 along with Vril‘s machines once the Hauneburg site was abandoned in favor of the more suitable Vril Arado Brandenburg aircraft testing grounds.
The early Haunebu I craft of which two prototypes were constructed were 25 meters in diameter, had a crew of eight and could achieve the incredible initial velocity of 4,800 km/h, but at low altitude. Further enhancement enabled the machine to reach 17,000 km/h.
Flight endurance was 18 hours. To resist the incredible temperatures of these velocities a special armor called Victalen { Frozen Smoke } was pioneered by SS metallurgists specifically for both the Haunebu and Vril series of disc craft. The Haunebu I had a double hull of Victalen. {Frozen Smoke developed in the 30’s}

The Experimental KSK Gun
The early models also attempted to test out a rather large experimental gun installation- the twin 60 mm KSK
(KraftStrahlKanone, Strong Ray Cannon) which operated off the Triebwerk for power. It has been suggested that the ray from this weapon made it a laser, but it was not. The Germans called it an “anachronism” gun - not belonging to that time period or out of place.
When a Vril 7 was downed by the Russians in 1945 a similar underbelly mounted KSK gun was destroyed with debris recovered from the battle site. Postwar the strange metal balls and tungsten spirals that made up
the weapon could not be identified. But recently it has been speculated that the Triebwerk-connected balls
formed cascade oscillators that were connected to a long barrel-shrouded transmission rod wrapped in a
precision tungsten spiral, or coil to transmit a powerful energy burst suitable to pierce up to 4 in (100 mm) of enemy armor. The heavy gun installation, however, badly destabilized the disc and in subsequent Haunebu models lighter MG and MK cannon were supposedly installed.




The Series Prototypes

The Haunebu I first flew in 1939 and both prototypes made 52 test flights. In 1942, the enlarged Haunebu II of 26 meters diameter was ready for flight testing. This disc had a crew of nine and could also achieve supersonic flight of 6,000 to 21,000 km/h with a flight endurance of 55 hours. Both it and the further developed 32 meter diameter Haunebu II Do-Stra had heat shielding of two hulls of Victalen. The craft were constructed and tested between 1943-44. The craft made 106 test flights.


By 1944, the perfected war model, the Haunebu II Do-Stra (Dornier STRAtospharen Flugzeug/Stratospheric Aircraft) was tested. Two prototypes were built. These massive machines, several stories tall, were crewed by 20 men. They were also capable of hypersonic speed beyond 21,000 km/h. The SS had intended to produce the machines with tenders for both Junkers and Dornier but in late 1944/early 1945 Dornier was chosen. The close of the war, however, prevented Dornier from building any production models. Yet larger still was the 71 meter diameter Haunebu III. A lone prototype was constructed before the close of the war. It was crewed by 32 and could achieve speeds of 7,000 to 40,000 km/h. It had a triple Victalen hull. It is said to have had a flight endurance of 7 to 8 weeks. The craft made 19 test flights. This craft was to be used for evacuation work for Thule and Vril in March 1945.

Further plans for a 120 meter diameter Haunebu IV were in the works but no such craft is known to have been
constructed before the end of the war.



LIZT KT-P2 HAUNEBU CELESTIAL NAVIGATION UNIT

Classified Equipment Found in New Mexico Scrapyard


 
January 6, 1994 Albuquerque Journal North article


Kreisel Teller- Peiltochterkompass 2

Information Label on back of unit:


KT-P2
 
Gerät Nr. 127-178 A-1
Anforderz. FI 23374
Werk Nr. 10143
Hersteller: 9 V y

The "KT-P2" was the codename for "Kreisel Teller" (Gyro Plate), and "P2" was the electronic designation for an oscillating electromagnetic dipole, tuned to 3/8 wavelength.


The device had a simple 6-volt motor, which drove a geared ring having a set of compass calibrations on it, to which an inner electromagnetic coupled disc corresponded. A selection knob in the center of the face turned a pointer to the desired flight- heading. There were fourteen contact points on the bottom, two of which supplied D.C. current to the motor. The motor would come on and rotate the outer compass ring until it showed the correct heading in respect to the flight direction indicator, according to information being fed to the device from a "Meister Kompass" (Master Compass), at which point the motor was automatically turned off.

The term "Tochter" (daughter) here means "slave" in this context, so the term "Peiltochterkompass" means "PolarSlave-Compass". This presupposed that the master compass, a gyrocompass, was celestially calibrated before takeoff, since a magnetic compass would be disabled by the rotating electromagnetic fields generated by the Triebwerk (Thrustwork) during normal operation. This was probably the earliest celestial navigational system ever developed until postwar disc IGS (Inertial Guidance System) units became available.

German Disc Aircraft Propulsion Theory Based on the KT-P2 Celestial Navigator

1) The discs were electrically propelled.


2) The propulsion system created an electric field around the discs which necessitated the development of an inertial guidance system and compass, since a magnetic compass would be useless due to the "Faraday Cage" effect".

3) The discs were circular which turned in twelve peripheral directions of the compass, plus up and down.

4) The discs used a horizontally oriented gyro master compass (Meisterkreiselkompass) calibrated prior to take-off to true north, as the frame of reference with which to navigate the disc using an electromagnetic slave compass, which was interconnected to stepping switches which also actuated the disc's bi-polar propulsion electrodes.

5) The system cancelled the normal effects of gravity, inertia, and momentum, and instantly synthesized momentum in the chosen direction without disturbing the operation of the master gyro, which continued to maintain its heading during flights, apparently because of an "internal' inertia/momentum within the disc's outer hull.

6) The instant turns showed an incompressible ether which is integrally locked with mass in the phenomena of inertia, momentum, and gravity.

~William Lyne, "Occult Ether Physics: Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System and the Conspiracy to Conceal it"



Kompass FL.23374












Another example from a German site.
Note that Thule Sonnenrad symbol at center is censored from the German site.
This one is a variant KT-P2 made by Patin.




Nazi Discs documentary












on the left replica of the Roswell crash spacecraft on the rigth the german "Bell" notice the strange symbols on the bottom of the crafts... they are similar









































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